# How to disable Cylc/ROSE use $HOME for running suite **URL:** \ **Category:** Cylc Support\ **Created:** [July 19, 2021, 8:09am UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/how-to-disable-cylc-rose-use-home-for-running-suite/356 "2021-07-19T08:09:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jerry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/cylc.discourse.group/jerry/32/153_2.png) [@Jerry](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/Jerry)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 8:09am UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/how-to-disable-cylc-rose-use-home-for-running-suite/356/1 "2021-07-19T08:09:30Z")
Hi, I’m working on NCI GADI with cylc-flo1. w/7.9.3 & rose/2019.01.5, and struggling with NOT using $HOME for running suite 1. Not create symbolic link in ~/cylc-run 2. Prefix $DATADIR to $ROSE\_DATAC instead of $HOME rose suite-run aborted with these error message ```auto [INFO] 2021-07-19T17:47:06+1000 cylc get-global-config -i [hosts][localhost]run\ directory [FAIL] 2021-07-19T17:47:06+1000 cylc global configuration incompatible to Rose: [hosts][localhost]run directory=/scratch/ub85/jl1623/cylc-run ``` Wondering how to disable Cylc/ROSE use $HOME for running sutie ? Here are my settings .cylc/global.rc ```auto [hosts] [[localhost]] work directory = /scratch/ub85/$USER/cylc-run run directory = /scratch/ub85/$USER/cylc-run [[gadi.*]] work directory = /scratch/ub85/$USER/cylc-run run directory = /scratch/ub85/$USER/cylc-run ``` .bashrc ```auto export DATADIR=/scratch/ub85/$USER ``` .metomi/rose.conf ```auto [rose-suite-run] hosts=localhost root-dir=*=$DATADIR root-dir{share}=*=$DATADIR root-dir{share/data}=*=$DATADIR root-dir{share/cycle}=*=$DATADIR root-dir{work}=*=$DATADIR ``` Thanks for your time. ---
**Author:** ![oliver.sanders](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/cylc.discourse.group/oliver.sanders/32/110_2.png) [@oliver.sanders](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/oliver.sanders)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 9:35am UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/how-to-disable-cylc-rose-use-home-for-running-suite/356/2 "2021-07-19T09:35:24Z")
Hello, > cylc global configuration incompatible to Rose If you are using Rose to move the Cylc run directory you will need to unset the Cylc worh and run directory settings as they cannot be used in combination with the Rose settings. I think the following should work for you: .cylc/global.rc ```auto # empty ``` .bashrc ```auto export DATADIR=/scratch/ub85/$USER ``` .metomi/rose.conf ```ini [rose-suite-run] hosts=localhost root-dir=*=$DATADIR ``` If the suite has previously been run remember to either: ```auto rose suite-clean; rose suite-run # OR rose suite-run --new ``` To remove the old installation first (as you cannot safely change the `root-dir` once the suite has been installed). ---
**Author:** ![Jerry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/cylc.discourse.group/jerry/32/153_2.png) [@Jerry](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/Jerry)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/how-to-disable-cylc-rose-use-home-for-running-suite/356/3 "2021-07-19T13:46:40Z")
Hi Sanders, Thanks for reply. I’m sorry it doesn’t work. Looked like work directory and run directory must be ~/cylc-run for [[localhost]] in global.rc , or rose suite won’'t run. ---
**Author:** ![dpmatthews](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/cylc.discourse.group/dpmatthews/32/26_2.png) [@dpmatthews](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/dpmatthews)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 6:32am UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/how-to-disable-cylc-rose-use-home-for-running-suite/356/4 "2021-07-20T06:32:16Z")
Hi Jerry - Rose expects the run directory to be in `~/cylc-run` so the best you can do is configure Rose to create symbolic links to a different file system. Is that a problem for you? ---
**Author:** ![Jerry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/cylc.discourse.group/jerry/32/153_2.png) [@Jerry](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/Jerry)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 2:04am UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/how-to-disable-cylc-rose-use-home-for-running-suite/356/5 "2021-07-21T02:04:09Z")
Hi Matthews, 1. Needs to run Rose/Cylc on a virtual desktop, the max. session lifetime is only 7 days, once it’s expired, needs to create a new virtual desktop seesion. The virtual desktop’s home directory is a local filesystem, only can be seen by itself, and all of local stuff will be gone once the virtual desktop is terminated. 2. Hit once a weird ‘Disk quota exceeded’ issue. I could make sure it’s only a symoblic link in ~/cycl-run and no quota issue on the filesystem where root-dir{share} and root-dir{work} located, help desk also confirmed that home quota doesn’t follow links and no problem for current disk allocations. Totally no idea what went wrong. So wanted to disable Cylc/Rose use $HOME. ---
**Author:** ![dpmatthews](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/cylc.discourse.group/dpmatthews/32/26_2.png) [@dpmatthews](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/dpmatthews)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 7:00am UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/how-to-disable-cylc-rose-use-home-for-running-suite/356/6 "2021-07-21T07:00:07Z")
Sounds a strange setup. Perhaps you could just create a top level symlink (`ln -s $DATADIR/cylc-run $HOME`) whenever you start a new virtual desktop (or maybe as part of the` cylc` or `rose` wrapper script if you use one). ---
**Author:** ![Jerry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/cylc.discourse.group/jerry/32/153_2.png) [@Jerry](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/Jerry)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 9:21am UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/how-to-disable-cylc-rose-use-home-for-running-suite/356/7 "2021-07-21T09:21:09Z")
Hi Matthews, Yes, it’s not a problem to create the symlink whenever start a new virtual desktop. Just worried about certain unexpected side effects introduced by the virtual desktop env. Cylc honors the run/work directory in [[localhost]] once specified an alternative location instead the detaul ~/cycl-run, it won’t use ~/cycl-run anymore. But it’s imcompatible with ROSE. ROSE alwasy refers $HOME for setting ROSE\_DATAC, ROSE\_DATAC???, etc. So wanted to disable Rose to use $HOME. Or I should post this qeustion in Rose support section. ---
**Author:** ![dpmatthews](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/cylc.discourse.group/dpmatthews/32/26_2.png) [@dpmatthews](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/dpmatthews)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 9:43am UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/how-to-disable-cylc-rose-use-home-for-running-suite/356/8 "2021-07-21T09:43:53Z")
Sorry, it’s not possible to configure Rose note to use `$HOME/cylc-run`. If you’ve set up the symlink then you shouldn’t need to configure the run/work directory in Cylc. ---
**Author:** ![hilary.j.oliver](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/cylc.discourse.group/hilary.j.oliver/32/4_2.png) [@hilary.j.oliver](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/hilary.j.oliver)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 11:02am UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/how-to-disable-cylc-rose-use-home-for-running-suite/356/9 "2021-07-21T11:02:37Z")
Hi @Jerry, At Cylc 8 you will not be able change the `cylc-run` directory location anymore, but you can configure Cylc to make symlinks under `~/cylc-run` to other locations (as `rose suite-run` does for Cylc 7) So I wouldn’t recommend relying on that old capability of Cylc 7 even if you didn’t need Rose compatibility. Hilary