# Metomi missing when running on remote host **URL:** \ **Category:** Cylc Support\ **Created:** [February 15, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/metomi-missing-when-running-on-remote-host/887 "2024-02-15T19:51:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![abarral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@abarral](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/abarral)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/metomi-missing-when-running-on-remote-host/887/1 "2024-02-15T19:51:05Z")
Following [the platforms docs](https://cylc.github.io/cylc-doc/stable/html/reference/config/writing-platform-configs.html), I’m trying to run a workflow from my computer, with tasks executing on a remote platform (let’s call it ada). All my tasks execute with `platform=ada`, and `global.cylc` has ```auto [platforms] [[ada]] hosts = ada install target = ada job runner = slurm ``` However the first job fails submission, and `runN/log/scheduler/01-start-01.log` reads: ```auto 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - Workflow: basic_cycle/run13 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - Scheduler: url=tcp://[xxx]:43032 pid=2024043 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - Workflow publisher: url=tcp://[xxx]:43043 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - Run: (re)start number=1, log rollover=1 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - Cylc version: 8.2.4 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - Run mode: live 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - Initial point: 19790101T0000Z 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - Final point: 19790105T0000Z 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - Cold start from 19790101T0000Z 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - New flow: 1 (original flow from 19790101T0000Z) 2024-02-15 20:42:41 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - [19790101T0000Z/init_simulation waiting(runahead) job:00 flows:1] => waiting 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - [19790101T0000Z/init_simulation waiting job:00 flows:1] => waiting(queued) 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - [19790101T0000Z/init_simulation waiting(queued) job:00 flows:1] => waiting 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - [19790101T0000Z/init_simulation waiting job:01 flows:1] => preparing 2024-02-15T19:42:41Z INFO - platform: ada - remote init (on ada) 2024-02-15T19:42:43Z ERROR - platform: ada - initialisation did not complete COMMAND: ssh -oBatchMode=yes -oConnectTimeout=10 ada env \ CYLC_VERSION=8.2.4 bash --login -c 'exec "$0" "$@"' cylc \ remote-init ada $HOME/cylc-run/basic_cycle/run13 RETURN CODE: 1 STDERR: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/cylc/bin/cylc-remote-init", line 43, in from cylc.flow.option_parsers import CylcOptionParser as COP File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/cylc/flow/option_parsers.py", line 27, in from cylc.flow.loggingutil import CylcLogFormatter File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/cylc/flow/loggingutil.py", line 37, in from cylc.flow.wallclock import (get_current_time_string, File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/cylc/flow/wallclock.py", line 23, in from metomi.isodatetime.timezone import ( ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'metomi' ``` It seems that for some reason, Cylc is loading metomi on the remote host. However, metomi is not a requirement of “base” Cylc, and isn’t used anywhere in my workflow. Is this normal ? If so, is there a way around it (cylc is installed via a module by the HPC administrators on ada, I can’t modify it) [and can we update the docs] ? Thanks ! ---
**Author:** ![hilary.j.oliver](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/cylc.discourse.group/hilary.j.oliver/32/4_2.png) [@hilary.j.oliver](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/hilary.j.oliver)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 4:01am UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/metomi-missing-when-running-on-remote-host/887/2 "2024-02-16T04:01:30Z")
Hi @abarral `metomi-isodatetime` is a core dependency of `cylc-flow`. It will be pulled in from PyPI by `pip install` or from conda forge by `conda install`. So your systems admins must have borked the installation! > If so, is there a way around it (cylc is installed via a module by the HPC administrators on ada, I can’t modify it) Depending on access to the internet, and allowed working practices etc., you could install Cylc yourself on your own user account (so long as you can do the same on the job platform too, if that’s on a different filesystem). > and can we update the docs The docs are OK as-is, because `metomi-isodatetime` is a core dependency that will be handled automatically by `pip` or `conda`- is that what you mean? ---
**Author:** ![abarral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@abarral](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/abarral)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 7:38am UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/metomi-missing-when-running-on-remote-host/887/3 "2024-02-16T07:38:31Z")
> `metomi-isodatetime` is a core dependency of `cylc-flow`. 😯 My bad, I didn’t even consider this possibility, and thought that it was connected to metomi-rose. Please disregard my following comments about the docs ^^. I think the issue might come from optional modules that require loading (e.g. `module load cylc`). Is there a way to tell cylc to run a command on the remote host right after ssh but before any other cylc command ? Or is the only way to hack something in the `.bashrc` ? ---
**Author:** ![oliver.sanders](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/cylc.discourse.group/oliver.sanders/32/110_2.png) [@oliver.sanders](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/oliver.sanders)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/metomi-missing-when-running-on-remote-host/887/4 "2024-02-16T12:48:50Z")
Isodatetime should be installed in the same environment as Cylc (it will be if installed by pip, conda or mamba) so you shouldn’t need to jump through any hoops after the environment has been activated (e.g. `module load`, `conda activate`, etc). Sounds like one push back to the folks who deploy Cylc as it looks like a broken installation. That said, Cylc subcommands are issued via Bash login shells, so you can use your `.bashrc` / `.profile` / `.bash_profile` to configure things e.g. set environment variables. Note, running subcommands before Cylc commands are issued won’t enable you to modify the environment of the parent process. ---
**Author:** ![abarral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@abarral](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/abarral)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/metomi-missing-when-running-on-remote-host/887/5 "2024-02-16T14:37:05Z")
> [@oliver.sanders](#): > > Isodatetime should be installed in the same environment as Cylc (it will be if installed by pip, conda or mamba) so you shouldn’t need to jump through any hoops after the environment has been activated I feel like there’s a misunderstanding here, and maybe I’m doing something wrong. I am on a local machine A, where cylc is directly available. I want to run the _jobs_ on a slurm cluster B (on my platform `ada`), where cylc is only available after running `module load cylc` over there. If I read correctly, you’re suggesting that cylc should be directly available on the _cluster B_. Is that correct ? ---
**Author:** ![oliver.sanders](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/cylc.discourse.group/oliver.sanders/32/110_2.png) [@oliver.sanders](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/oliver.sanders)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/metomi-missing-when-running-on-remote-host/887/6 "2024-02-16T14:46:27Z")
> If I read correctly, you’re suggesting that cylc should be directly available on the _cluster B_. Is that correct ? Yes, the `cylc` executable must be in `$PATH` in order to function as a distributed system. To facilitate working with environments (e.g. `module load`), most sites use a wrapper script. A simple wrapper script could look like this: ```auto #!/usr/bin/env bash module load cylc exec cylc "$@" ``` We bundle a more advanced wrapper script that also supports the deployment of multiple parallel versions of Cylc with the cylc-flow package. See the installation docs for more details: [https://cylc.github.io/cylc-doc/stable/html/installation.html#managing-environments](https://cylc.github.io/cylc-doc/stable/html/installation.html#managing-environments) The Cylc wrapper script works with VirtualEnv, Conda and Mamba environments. It doesn’t work with `module load` out the box, though I’m guessing the environment you’re activating via `module load` was actually created via `pip`, `conda` or `mamba` so the module is probably an unnecessary intermediary. ---
**Author:** ![abarral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@abarral](https://cylc.discourse.group/u/abarral)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://cylc.discourse.group/t/metomi-missing-when-running-on-remote-host/887/7 "2024-02-16T18:46:49Z")
Thanks !! Creating a proper alias solved the issue. I’m having another problem with cleaning remote work, but I’ll post a separate thread later.